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CNN claims GTA IV is training kids to kill

Posted on May 2nd, 2008 at 07:15 EDT

CNN's Glenn Beck has launched an attack on Grand Theft Auto IV and modern pop culture, by saying that the game is helping train gamers to become killers, live on US television.

Kotaku spotted a video on YouTube of Beck’s rant, in which he encourages parents and members of the public to be weary about the game, which you can view below.

Beck said: "If you think that video games are just harmless fun, which everybody always says, you should know that our military and our leaders at the Pentagon have never seen it that way.

"GTA 4 is projected to sell nine million copies just by the end of the year. That's $450 million just in sales. And who says crime doesn't pay?

“It took 75 years and countless billions of dollars to train our soldiers to kill. Today 60 bucks buys your kid the same thing. Whatever happened to Pong?”

We think it's ridiculous, but we'd still love to hear what you think about this below.

 

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posted 3:21am EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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nananaa the neverending story, nananana!!

posted 3:29am EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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OMG i never knew die hard would make me a bald psychotic cop who kills random bad guys and make epic one liners !

posted 3:36am EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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this game is training me to kill people!

posted 3:38am EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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CNN is jealous on Rockstar haha :D

posted 4:02am EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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Well... Humans are a type of animal and animals do kill. So his facts are wrong. Besides, it dont take TV to kill for your life. They make it seem like I never seen someone get shot in real life. I live in Philadelphia, PA... GTA is he everyday of the week. Cops always get shot at.

posted 4:03am EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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I want some of what he's smoking!

I vented my anger at these uneducated fools on the MADD article thread, I've no more vitriole left to throw in their direction.

Same question again. Has he played the game? No.

He's probably not even seen it, just repeating what he heard.

All this suggestion of violence is nonsense, and if anyone disagrees I'll cut you up and leave you in a car trunk in the crushers!

(N.B. That was meant to be irony, just incase some of you other-side-of-the-ponders didnt get it)

posted 4:08am EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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Beating up prostitutes with bats, cutting cops in half or burning them? umm...they are called CHOICES in this game, not an OBJECTIVE! Apparenly these close-minded "adults" don't know a thing about video games. All in all, thanks for the free promotion CNN!! LMAO!!!

posted 4:11am EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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I was born 10-26-78.  I saw terminator when it first came out in 1985, i was 7.  I started listening to gangsta rap (NWA) behind my parents back when it started in 1986, i was 8.  I HAVE NEVER KILLED OR EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT KILLING SOMEONE SERIOUSLY.  Crazy people always blame everyone but themselves.  They also said in the story a kid killed some people after playing gta for 16hrs a day.  If a kid plays video games for 16hrs a day, then the parents are to blame for letting them play any game for 16hrs a day.

posted 4:16am EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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Yay, Jack Thompson V2. Maybe they'll eventually realize that war games do the same thing. :P

posted 4:21am EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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Here a reality check for this @ hole... I who lives in NY and GTA4 a game based in NY can tell you that things are totally the opposite.. Here the cops are killing us, shooting us 50 times and getting away with.. Prostitutes arent dying.. Their ratting out politicians and getting paid and famous from the media attention.. The game has a M rating on it.. And if little bobby is getting his hands on it, Look at the parent not the game.. All those BS stats he stated are irrelevant b/c when a child is raised right with a good family structure.. They play these same games and when their done they go and finish their homework.. Not go and finish off the neighbors..

posted 4:28am EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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somehow I agree with the opinion that the game might introduce killing to kids.... but that does not necessarily "train" them to kill.. GTAIV is not doing harm as much as TV shows, movies and George W. Bush..

posted 4:32am EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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And with that, Mr Beck hopped in his limo, snorted a couple of lines of coke, and had his driver take him to his favourite whorehouse, where he put on his gimp suit and got whipped to within an inch of his life while creaming repeatedly in his mother's lace panties.

 

Can anyone say "knee-jerk reaction"? (Emphasis on 'jerk'...)

 

PMSL at this guy! We all know these so-called "straight-laced" do-gooders are among the worst offenders. If GTA is teaching people to kill for $60, then I want a refund, because the lessons clearly aren't helping me. We have 2 fat pigeons persistently wrecking a bird feeder in our garden, yet despite hours of GTA IV, I can't bring myself to shoot them...

posted 4:38am EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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anyway CNN loves death and violence gives them ratings, they would be screwed if  the world was perfect  and they only covered things like dog shows :-)

posted 4:43am EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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They say this about every GTA...no one really cares...and if u dont want your kids playing it THEN DONT BUY IT... simple.

posted 5:02am EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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Ok, we've got MADD up on em, CNN has joined the party, who's next? :D :P

posted 5:36am EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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Played every GTA titles and video games 3/4 of my life, but haven't killed a person or an animal (maybe a few bugs) no bigger than a tiny hamster. So what is this guy saying, that I failed as an American/Canadian? Was I supposed to kill people or sign up for the next war to fight at some poor country? So according to him, i'm an expert killer! I guest thats kinda cool.

posted 5:56am EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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 Lmao this guy needs to get layed ! 

 

Americans.... get over it...

posted 6:06am EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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That’s crazy. It only encourages me to kill people from a helicopter, and where am I going to find a good military helicopter in real life? Actually, if McCain becomes President, we’ll probably need all the kids to train up with GTAIV.

posted 6:16am EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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posted 6:28am EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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If u guys seen the latest 'Attack of the show' ep. they talked about kids and video game violance and i realy dont need to exp. something so stupid to u intelagent ppl but to the point they show a 7yr old kid taking his moms car for a joy ride with his other 7yr old buddy  they ram some cars, and hit some stop signs, and also they crash into a Wal-Mart, but after that they were smokin some weed. when the cops cought them they told them why did u do this, the kids say my mom got me angery and i was mad and doing bad things is fun. and the only game these kids play is b-ball so y didnt Glenn Beck address this its only a few days old. That azz is just angry that game dev. are makeing more money than him this argument always goes to the money if u dont have some u would want some.

posted 6:38am EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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we hear this every time a violent game comes its as simple as not buying your child the game you f*kn idiots thats y they plalced a rating systm on the games duh. if u think its inapropriate just dont buy it cnn are just a buch of a** holes that like controversy in their progrm yet agin here wasted time on an uneccary subject  i say they just sit back and watch the sales go up what they dont kno they are helping promotion

posted 6:39am EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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Rockstar is LMAOing right now..

How about games like Call of Duty and Socom? You kill people in those games, and it is a lot closer to military than GTA..

posted 7:19am EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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Yet you still sell guns...! And doesn the US Army use a computer game to recruit? Ban guns not games

posted 7:25am EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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 Games have ratings for a reason. 

You could quite easily take any action movie and put on the same spin as this junk has.

The Matrix teaches your child to kill ZOMG!. 

excellent point by the guy above what are they doing making the game americas army. The bridge on that game was cool :P

posted 7:31am EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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Somebody always has something to say about GTA, but its understandable.  It is violent.  BUT ITS SO FUN< HA HA>  Parents shoudl watch there damn kids, so they dont bye it.  When someone uses a videogame as anm excuse to harm people or kill., thats bull++++.  GTA is awesome, but I'm not a idiot that can't tell the difference from right and wrong, fantasy and real life.  I just that GTA 4 has taken over the planet and know we are all doomed, OHHH NOOOO, Run for your life Mr. Beck.

posted 7:31am EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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Watching this whole video all I coudl think about was on Gta4 When You take Roman to the burger joint and he says " I can feel an extra chin growing on me cousin"

posted 7:32am EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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Its down to the degenerate parents that bring up their kids to be little thugs, shoot the parents i say, in fact if you are a sc*m bag council house unemployed dosser then you should be sterilized at birth so we can wipe out this race of useless good for nothing slackers, that do nothing more than breed hoody W**kers to claim more money on the social, more kids = more money. Waste of space

posted 8:16am EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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Sensationalist crap!

of course, if what he says is true, would we not all be out killing each other. The people who kill are those who lack self control or have a screw loose!

this is all so crazy. should he not be blaming sensationalist media reports, i think so. Look a little closer to home you dusch!! 

posted 8:20am EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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It's all the fault of technology! TV doubled murders! Destroy your computers and go back to nature!!!

I wonder how much violence could be prevented if we burn all of the books?

 

posted 8:24am EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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LMFAO that ridiculouss it was funny

posted 8:25am EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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H3ll yeh! im a trained killer now, give me a gun even tho iv never seen a real one in my life im sure ill be able to fire it no problems.

posted 8:29am EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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lets blame GTA San Andreas too for Sep 11...we could have jet there...people learn from GTA series.

posted 8:45am EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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Man o Man this was bound to happen

Video games dont kill people

Guns dont kill people

 

 

look at microsoft with there flight sumulator x that help terrorist learn how to fly i dont see that on the news..That game is so real in flight models and stuff and how to work a plane..but they dont do anything or say anything about that

People kill people

 

F

posted 9:33am EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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ha ha ha fun! fun! this is most awesome joke i ever heard ha ha ha

the real person's need respect and talking them respectful and on the game who needs respect and peace because they die few second ago then respawn in other street ( i mean other zone ) he/she don't need compare game world to real world i didn't do stealing or killing people in real life (expect fighting in dark street XD ) it's just mind of that person of playing game ( but some peoples are taking from things from games so serios that's the problem (most of them 12-21 or whatever)

posted 9:49am EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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And Who Cares

posted 9:58am EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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First off I would like to say that is that this guy is just blowin smoke up his as.s and People will always criticise games that mimic todays' society but that don't mean that you can just run people over with a car because we all know its wrong. Despite the fact that game has an M rating kids will always find a way to get it and Parents should be aware and educated of wat their kids are playing. Violent videogames will always be criticised and that will never change
posted 10:02am EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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Too late, GTA 3 already trained me to be a killer. LOL.  I don't honestly know how these idiots believe what they are ranting about, they all have diarrhea of the mouth as far as I'm concerned.

By the way, I'm to busy playing GTA 4 to worry about going out and killing anything. 

C'mon people, get a life, do your parenting and take responsibilty for your own actions (and that of your children if you're not teaching them right from wrong). 

If I were ever to go out and harm someone, I sure as h.e.l.l wouldn't be blaming it on the videogames I play.  I'm so tired of these lame excuses people are making to justify the lack of social responsibilty.

posted 10:07am EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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This guy is a loser.

posted 10:25am EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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 This coworker i know jumps on the head of every furry animal he sees after he played the original mario as a child.

posted 10:47am EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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psn id: gingo... lol this is an absolute joke, how can some people not realise that games are the exact same as films, nobody goes on a rant about a film thats too violent but when it comes to a game its the end of the world and all youth is doomed

posted 11:00am EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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VIDEO GAMES ARE NOT TO BLAME FOR SOCIETY'S PROBLEMS! PEOPLE ARE. I'm getting sick of stupid rednecks blaming everyone but themselves for their own actions... as Chris Rock said, "what ever happened to being just CRAZY?! What ever happened to 'crazy'?"

posted 11:03am EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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Its bogus..if your going to go out and kill someone you dont do it from a game. You obviously have already thought about it to begin with.

posted 11:06am EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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lol...you guys are all missing the point. Just because this game doesnt effect you doesnt mean it wont effect others. You guys are all like " i dont this and i dont that ....well if its not effecting YOU then YOU is not who this is about. It's not all about YOU..the media as a whole, believe it or not, IS responsible for NEGATIVE behaviour in small impressionable minds. NOT all but a large amount ...

I have the game and LOVE it...but that doesnt mean i nessecarily agree its right.

Tommyboy;)

posted 11:09am EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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hmm maybe he should look at the game certification on the box and decide if it is rockstar whos to blame or ahole Parents/retaillers who are giving/selling this game to minors who need to be held responsible

posted 11:29am EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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free words makes u insane CNN

posted 11:32am EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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His rant just shows how ineffective our gov't is, billions of dollars and 75 years of training vs. a $60 video game and prob a couple of hours.  He should be addressing government issues instead of video games.  Just another moron in the tv news media.

posted 11:47am EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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this glenn beck is a GRADE A Nobhead :D go sit on ur thumb nobhead

posted 11:48am EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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F'ing Moron!

PEOPLE KILL OTHER PEOPLE ! ! !  Not 'games'.

posted 11:50am EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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whatever Glenn Beck is a fear monger plus he is part of the weathly elite ( so that makes him trash).

p.s. you can saw ppl in half...?

nice!

posted 11:50am EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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Like he said tv and pop culture is making us kill people... After I watched this video it made me wanna kill myself cuz people have nothing better to do then to blame killing on video games. "Guns dont kill people, people kill people", was there a video game kills people in there... FIGURE IT OUT! lol

posted 11:55am EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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Well fellow gamers we know this was coming. I and my brother in law are gamers too and we both have kids. Mines are 10, 14 and he has a little girl 3. One solution we don't do. We don't play or for that matter even let our kids even think about playing. Bottom line but I guess CNN and others think they're the better parent.

posted 12:02pm EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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my dad asked if i bought the game. i said yeah i did.   he said to my mom ' did you know you can have sex with hookers in the game and blow up cops?    my mopm kind of slapped me. i was like i'm 21. i think i know a video game from real life.   the only time i might go crazy is when gas prices hit 8.00 per gallon or a little more.    or when it's the end of the world and satin is there. and i want to make him even say "wtf? is your problem?  lol if you can make him say that your pretty bad

posted 12:07pm EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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No more than CNN is training kids to be mindless idiots.

posted 12:25pm EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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GTA has trained me to pickup hookers, get involved with organized crime, run over pedestrians, and go on shooting sprees.

... It's just that I'm not doing any of those thing in real life.

posted 12:29pm EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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i do agree with the the guy but like he said it is all tv, games ec etc doing this and with the money in it there is no way its gonna stop so might as well go along with it.

posted 12:30pm EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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lmaooo is this a joke?

 

posted 12:31pm EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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9 million its gonna sell a heck of alot more than that a hole oh yer did i mention your an ahole. oh i bet when he got home from work he went and played this and owns it.

posted 1:17pm EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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posted 1:21pm EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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Sure its training me to kill people.I mean,I can just walk out into the real world with a joypad which I then use to control somebody to shoot another person.

What?That doesn't happen?Oh.....that's ruined my plan then.

posted 1:27pm EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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CNN trained me to hate cable news networks.

posted 1:43pm EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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Not sure how this game 'trains me' to kill, I use the controller not a gun, it would not improve my shooting accuracy at all, moral of the story is...If your a good parent you won't buy or let this game be played by your child

posted 2:06pm EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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My god i've never heard such 5hit in all my life. I'm sorry if your that mentally unstable that you don't know the difference between right and wrong then you shouldn't even be allowed out in to the street, i've played all the nasties, manhunt, gta etc and not once would i consider coping anything thats in these games, by the time your 18 (the age of the game in the UK) if you don't have any sense of morality then these games are going to make no difference. When will people accept that the games are age rated for a reason just like films, i wouldn't let my 10 year old watch saw and damn sure i'm not going to let him play GTA yet, the whole reason for the age ratings i would have thought.

posted 2:27pm EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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Not exactly true. But I have to say that games and movies are influential to a developing mind. Now, first of all kids should never play violent games and this comes down to parents. If a parent is repsonsible enough to teach his/her child to know the difference between right and wrong, then in that case even a 10 year old would have no problem playing games like GTA. Like my kid brother, he's way underage to be playing this game, but I and my parents have taught him enough to know what you can and can not do and he understands that.

But even so, video games do invoke aggression. For example, someone who is not a very good gamer or perhaps has anger issues might get frusturated at the fact that he/she can't accomplish a mission in the game and after playing the game that person might be in an unstable mood and punch someone, without thinking clearly, and later be sorry: I can testify for this. It is not made up, it is a fact. It is how one is nurtured is what determines that person's behaviors. This man has somewhat of a point but he is only talking through one perspective and obviously is not a right person to be saying anything about what causes what. They should have had a psychologist do the talking. Some people might not agree with me, but still, games aren't completely innocent of the fact that they do have a part to play in encouraging aggressive behaviors in us. But contrary to my own statement, video games also allow us to vent our frusturation or anger without any consequences, so obviously there are positives and negatives to the whole situation.

posted 2:45pm EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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posted 2:46pm EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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I wouldn't last two seconds in a fire fight and could quite comfortably hold my own in a video game.

 

Some people just don't realise it's not real. No matter how much they tell themselves it isn't real. I just doesn't sink in.

 

I often wonder if this is because they are in fact hiding the demons. Not us gamers. What are they worried they'd do?

posted 2:56pm EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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I'm gonna give this guy the three dots:    . . .

posted 3:08pm EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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Ive already ranted about the Mothers thing; now this, i mean come on i guess we should be used to GTA getting all the media attention.  But What about me? I mean come on look at MEDIA to begin with always showing us and telling us that people are dying and what not, what about movies no one ever complains about movies and i know minors who go to see movies that are not allowed to be viewed by minors.  I guess our system is not working oh well, i'm done.

posted 3:14pm EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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“It took 75 years and countless billions of dollars to train our soldiers to kill. Today 60 bucks buys your kid the same thing. “

Wow!  RockStar should be given an award for PEACE!!!  You know how many REAL People all those countless billions SAVE!!

posted 3:18pm EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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glenn beck needs to drink a can of sprunk and shut the Fu*k up before all our trained gta  killer children come for his blood.

posted 3:19pm EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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Niko Belic... He is an illegal immigrant, a person in real life could be just like him... He does drug runs, Mexicans that come an illegally do them! This is real life in a lot of it, obviously mowing down people on the streets is more of dictator agression, but stil this guy dosn't realized the big picture! This is just like New York's crime, the mafias, and so much more!

posted 3:19pm EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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all of this is a bunch of bull, i have said this countless times that movies have been doing the same thing for years and nobody complains but if a game has it it training us to kill , forget about the bull they are just trying to censore our world to much children are exposed to violence just about everyday of their life get over it get use to it because its not stopping no time soon

posted 3:23pm EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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It's funny that the news media, activists, lawyers, parents, and politicians constantly attack the "Grand Thet Auto" video game series for promoting violence, and yet, none of them say a damn thing about video games such as "Call of Duty," "Saints Row," "Army of Two," etc.  If these people want to "clean up" the video game industry, they shouldn't based their opinions of the entire industry on one video game series.  Also, there are many active video game players that play violent video games and don't turn into killers.  I'm living proof.

posted 3:24pm EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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If that dumbass was in relation to me I would disown him.

posted 3:40pm EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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He is indeed correct - Only yesterday I stole a hand grenade and blew up 13 people... Oh wait I don't have the IQ of a 2 year old, my bad.

posted 3:48pm EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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"Hire a prostitute, have sex with her, and beat her to death with a baseball bat"

This doesn't mean that everybody is going to go out and do this in real life. It's just a game, and to be honest I'm sure peoples girlfriends etc would be a LOT happier with there boyfriends / husbands commiting these VIRTUAL acts instead of going out and doing it for real.

posted 4:05pm EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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I tried to shoot someone once but I couldn't find the O button on the gun!

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Eastern European thug?  He's trying to assimilate into America.  It amazes me that people can find so many things in today's culture that is wrong, but the music of their generation was as bad, if not worse.  Pink Floyd's Comfortably Numb? Taking cocaine.  Jimi Hendrix's Purple Haze? You get the picture.  I guess they should change GTA to Manslaughter or First Degree Murder.  I'd go on but I left a huge rant yesterday for MADD.

posted 4:13pm EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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They are for sure going to be trying to trash GTA IV;it got a 10 out of 10.We saw the **** they gave GTA SA and it nowhere near as good as this one.

posted 4:39pm EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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wow i didnt know that im a kid and i still know what is a game and real god they will put anything this days on the news so much bullsh.it

posted 5:31pm EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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What an ignorant dbag

posted 5:53pm EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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if the USA wants kids to stop thinkin gof killing and being in gangs and such. USA SHOULD MAKE FIRE-ARMS ILLEGAL- BUT THEY DONT BECAUSE THEIR MAKING MONEY OFF EVERYTHING- USA GOVERMENT IS JUST A BIG GAME

posted 5:56pm EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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He's absolutely right and it's why I stopped getting the game.  I stopped at Vice City.  Everbody knows that every geek is just one heart break away from shooting up a school.  And no, I'm not being sarcastic.  At least 6 of you dudes are future killers and you know it.

posted 5:59pm EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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That's a good thing so the next time your child goes on myspace or get pick up by a total stranger just think " What would Nikko Bellic do in this situation." When Saint Rows came out no one said anything or Kayne and Lynch, Hey you know what blame GTA on global warming or the price of gas, or even worse putting president Bush in office and the JFK assassination while your at it you pricks.

posted 6:38pm EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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The d umbest rebutale line ever --> PEOPLE K ILL PEOPLE!! LMFAO....YA people who are influenced by these types of media...LISTEN UP YOU M 0R0NS..think about other people for once in your self centered life. All that "idi0t" is saying is AND PAY ATTENTION...The less fortunate ...The kids without 'proper' guidance...The mentally unstable..ect ect ect ..can AND are being affected by these types of media....FOR F)CK SAKES grow the h ell up and relize that SOME people actually care about other people...WHILE we are passionate about gaming ..so are people passionate about helping and preventing troubled kids from negative distructive material....CAN YOU REALLY BLAME THEM??? ...This game is completely NEGATIVE from start to finish...it's our discretion to keep these things only infront of people who are stable and mature enough to identify the difference between wrong and right (I have it :) ....you guys act like he's attacking you!! Some of your comments are so F'ing rediculas it's like caveman 101..... RELAX!!

 

Tommyboy ;)

posted 7:13pm EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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I'm sick of the media and everyone else blaming video games for stupid sh it  like this dumb as s glenn beck blame the fu cking parents for buying the sh it  for there stupid chud of a kid not the developer

posted 7:26pm EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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If GTA IV will help train me to become a kill.er then so be it! With all of our troops away in the middle east who's to protect us but ourselves? Isn't that how it use to be in the john adams days? Any man cabable of bearing arms defended this country long before us. Anyway all jokes aside, the Taliban literally have training camps that are training their next terrorist group as we speak! Kids my son age (9 yrs. old) are being trained on how to shoot people, fatally and d umb@ sses like this guy is worried about a game? Let''s be real here, we as a country do so much in trying to protect our kids from violence yet you see it in your neighborhoods, your nightly news, etc. but no one is fighting against that. They rather blame something instead of someone. LMAO at this sad case of a guy!

posted 8:17pm EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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watching whats happening over seas on cnn teaches me how to kill ppl more than gta4 does.

posted 8:18pm EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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he had no good points this guy is just a dumbass. he needs to get the facts againts it...not for it lol

posted 8:38pm EDT - May 2nd, 2008
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Hipocrisy, that's what it is.STFU and go play it Beck.

posted 8:49pm EDT - May 2nd, 2008
89

Wait a minute, chainsaws and flamethrowers aren't in this game. It seems they didn't double check their info.

posted 8:52pm EDT - May 2nd, 2008
90

If your kid try to kill someone its your fault for being a dead beat parent. I have three kids, yes THREE!!! And they know better. I got gta4 and been playing since gta1 and never had a problem. train your kids to do the right thing. woop that a.s.s and they will learn. no time outs, that s.h.i.t. dont work.

psn id: I95SOUTH<--- Learn from the best

posted 9:12pm EDT - May 2nd, 2008
91

omg im a killer !! :-|

posted 9:13pm EDT - May 2nd, 2008
92

ahh man i actually liked glenn beck now all of my respect for him is gone.

posted 10:17pm EDT - May 2nd, 2008
93

93rd FTW!!!!!

posted 11:06pm EDT - May 2nd, 2008
94

So what about all the people who have comitted murder and have never played grand theft auto.  What about those people who have been in prison for murder since before the first grand theft auto was ever even thought of.  It's not like the idea of killing someone has never occured to anyone before, and grand theft auto introduced this idea to us.  It's not like kids haven't killed before.  I've never played grand theft auto before, and probably never will because I don't believe in the things it portrays, but I will never be so arogant as to say that playing it is going to turn any kid into a cold heartless killer.  If a kid goes out and kills someone, I guarantee you there were other things going on in his life than just grand theft auto.  And if it ever occurs that grand theft auto does cause a kid to kill someone, should we allow that one case be a stepping stone to censoring all forms of media?  I remember when I was a kid hearing that some kid set his sister on fire because he heard beavis from beavis and butthead say fire.  I must have heard beavis say fire hundreds of times when I was a kid and I never set anyone on fire.  These acts all boil down to one thing, bad parenting.  If parents did their jobs, kids would never play games like this.  I know that I would never in a million years let my kids play grand theft auto.  But the sad thing is many parents don't monitor what their kids are playing.  And that neglect, which probably runs into other areas of these kids lives, is the cause of these few cases where kids commit these acts.  So why should everyone suffer because parents aren't doing their jobs?  What happens if we hear of some 10 year old killing his parents and he's never played grand theft auto?  I guess they'll search out some other video game as a source.  Say Mario Galaxy maybe?  Stop me if I'm wrong, but doesn't mario kill mushrooms and turtles in this game.  Maybe these kids are taking acid or mushrooms and hallucinating that their parents are a giant walking mushroom.  So yeah, they had to take them out!  That's what Mario Galaxy trained them to do.  Down with Mario!

posted 11:13pm EDT - May 2nd, 2008
95
You are F*N kidding yourself arn't you??? I can say right now no amount of computer games has trained me. All I can say is F U and get a life. CNN can shove it because there abuse against GTA IV will be what causes people to go out killing so shut ur trap or there wont be a CNN left!
posted 1:02am EDT - May 3rd, 2008
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The game is WAAAY over-rated anyway! Training is the wrong word, and it does reduce the level of importance young kids put on life and respect for others. Adults know better, but blame parents for buying and letting their kids play this game to begin with. Just playing it though, doesn't make the average kid a killer, no more than watching a violent movie. Most of you missed the point. He says it's not just this game, or games in general, but a combination of media. This is not a one-sided issue. And to those comments about the U.S., don't pretend we're the "only" ones with political, moral, and military egos! Stick to the topic please.

posted 3:00am EDT - May 3rd, 2008
97

He actually has a point. I will be buying the game and have as yet remained murder free after playing games for years. But what he is talking about is the training of unconscious responses, and there's no doubt movies, video games etc have all played their part in 'normalising' violence and sexual activity. Movies that are rated M15+ today would have been rated R18+ 30 years ago.

 

Either way, all the crying in the world isn't going to stop people buying this sort of entertainment, and playing and viewing it isn't going to turn you into a killer or anything of the sort, but it does make it 'easier' to kill someone.

posted 3:33am EDT - May 3rd, 2008
98

So if a game that depicts killing, teaches children to be killers. Does a news story that depicts what a rapist did or what a KKK member did teach children to be rapist and hate mongers? Or does a book that depicts magic automatically bring a child to the rational that he is the grand-masha of the elfin people.

Everything in life is a choice. If playing a game like GTA “teaches a child to kill”, it wouldn’t matter if he had played that game or not. He would have seen this in a movie or on a news story of our current peace mission. Media does not drive peoples actions, their rational and personal interest drive their actions.

 

posted 4:59am EDT - May 3rd, 2008
99

GTA4 has an 18 rating. So if kids are playing it then it is the adults who are to blame for buying it them.
Seems to me the people who are having the rant about violence in a game are not stable people themselves if they think a game will turn everyone psycho.
I see no mention of TV programs such as CSI that teaches what evidence can catch you or any of the 18 rated killer movies being banned.

posted 5:08am EDT - May 3rd, 2008
100

 Well, I actually agree with this guy on most of his point.  As he says, our entire culture and it's media is very violence oriented, and that does make people more disposed to engage in violence, at least in general.  

 

However, it's still a parent's responsibility to measure what their kids watch, play, read or whatever.  The rating system is there....use it.  It's foolish to pick something out by itself like GTA and say it's "training kids to kill."  But, our culture and media in general IS exposing everyone to more violence on a daily basis and while it won't make the average person more likely to kill someone, it HAS been proven that people become "de-sensitized" to violence through exposure.  For some deviant people or certain personality types, this may make them more likely to do something, but again, you can't hang the blame on just one or two sources..

Hey, if I had a young kid under 10 I probably wouldn't let them play GTA, but it all depends on the maturity of the person and how they have been raised, etc.  Leave the choice to the citizen just like with porn and other "hot-button" issues.

posted 6:05am EDT - May 3rd, 2008
101

he does make a good point there  about videogames training people to be killers and the point about the military first time killing rates because i have to say that i myself after playing games since i was like 7 (i am 18 now ) am way more likely to shoot someone if i have to ( war ) or it could just be me but it is not just gta and in fact gta never really made me think about that stuff really but it is games like call of duty and things like that  that actually made me think it wouldnt be so bad to shoot someone .  lmao, i know all that stuff probably makes me look crazy

posted 6:10am EDT - May 3rd, 2008
102

Doesn't USA sell guns? I thought so. ;-)

 

Of course there will be some cases where some people go insane, it can't be avoided. It happens to games and movies and also books. And don't blame the game, blame the parents.

posted 6:18am EDT - May 3rd, 2008
103

I got the game im not even 18 the game does not do anything to your Brain people need to learn from what is real and what is just a game i play the game and shot people in the head does not mean i can do that in real life i mean where am i going to get a gun in the 1st place lol but really the news this days are full of sh.it just to piss people off they would anything to take off the game rockstar games are just making a game what about other games and movies that is about killing and again its not like this game has no point in why he kills theres a story and aswell theres no chainsaws and flamethrowers maybe if they really do play the game they would know aswell what they said you can see them having sex and stuff that is bulls.hit you don't see anything you can only hear it aswell this game is rated 18 i think its allowed to put whatever they want.

posted 7:13am EDT - May 3rd, 2008
104

i hope this guy dnt have have kids lol

wot a cheese and who said girls cant play gta lol

posted 7:43am EDT - May 3rd, 2008
105

And this guy is an alco and druggie, says it on his cnn page.

now a morman who probably just complains about everything.

oh well at least he hasn't given up on the drug taking.
 

posted 9:41am EDT - May 3rd, 2008
106

There will always be many people who will rally behind this foolish trumpet call to blame societies woes on video games. I remind them of this.... THESE GAMES ARE RATED and you get CARDED FOR BUYING THEM!!!!! Why don't they address the problem of underage drinking and drug use instead? And so far as the military comment.... I imagine most of the players of these games won't be running down the street imitating Niko Bellic anytime soon, as usually when you play out these fantasies in the game you end up dead at the end of your criminal romp.

posted 10:37am EDT - May 3rd, 2008
107

WE ARE BEING TRAINED BY GAMES NOW THAT A NEW ONE, I THINK WE HAVE BRAIN TO CHOOSE WHT WE GOING TO DO OR WHT WE ARE NOT GOING TO DO, IT IS MATTER OF MATURENESS TO DO THINGS AND IF YOU THINK BACK VIOLENCE IS EVERYWHERE, PEOPLE LIKE HIM JUST TROW ALL THE BLAME ON VIDEOS GAMES, WHEN HE SHOULD SEE THE NEWS EVERY DAY AND THE ONLY THING U SEE IS KILLING OTHER PEOPLE MAYORITY OF TIMES HAPPENS CAUSE THEY ARE MALESTED, OR THEY DNT CARE ABOUT  WHT WOULD HAPPEN TO THE WORLD, SO STOP BLAMMING VIDEO GAMES AND WATCH WHT THE REAL WORLD IS DOING, CORRUPTION EVERYWHERE= VIOLENCE EVERYWHERE. WARS WITH NO POINT OF FIGHTING. VIOLENCE COMES FROM FROM THE PAST MY GOOD FRIEND AND IT IS AN INSTICT. BY THE WAY ON STORES DNT LET ANYONE BUY THE GAME UNLESS IS THE RIGHT AGE OR WITH A PARENT, WHEN I FIRST WAS GOING TO BUY THIS GTA3 MY FATHER TOLD ME, "IM GOING TO BUY THIS GAME BUT DO NOT DO THE THINGS THAT THIS GAME DO" SO I LISTENED TO MY FATHER DIDNT DO THE THINGS ON THE GAMES. SO THE OTHER PROBLEM IS COMMUNICATION IN WHICH IN THE U.S DONT HAVE AT ALL..

posted 12:08pm EDT - May 3rd, 2008
108

In defense of Glenn Beck......I think he is hilarious! I think in a round about way its complimenting the video game world. Games now days are big business and these games are far more realistic. GTA 4 is no Mario Bros game. I personally dont think that kids should be playing the game. However, I do hate all the negative talk about video games getting the blame. I definately think its on the parents to raise kids. Who hasnt seen some things as a kid that influenced them, desensitizing them, but with good parenting we dont go Columbine!

posted 2:11pm EDT - May 3rd, 2008
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This guy is SOO right. Did you hear about the eight year old who shot a copter with a DEER RIFLE! Then he killed 200+ people. I saw it. This guy knows EXACTLY what he's talking about. Just like McDonalds encourges me to be obese.
posted 2:23pm EDT - May 3rd, 2008
110

Oh dear...because kids don't know right from wrong these days.

Blame it alllll on the videogames. The videogames caused some kid to punch another kid. The videogames caused some kid to burn down a school. The videogames caused some kid to shoot all their classmates.

How about the parents take responsibility for their child?

I've played plenty of violent games in my day and I'm not causing an uproar. -.-

posted 12:05pm EDT - May 4th, 2008
111

1. It's not for kids
2. It's NOT FOR KIDS
3. The whole point of the story is that crime sucks!

posted 3:08pm EDT - May 4th, 2008
112
Mom Mom look im killing someone @CNN You suck even UTV live pwns your pathetic false lies
posted 11:12pm EDT - May 4th, 2008
113
wow Glen... i didnt know people ages 17+ are called "kids"... but parents should really take a notice to the ESRB ratings alot more unless they know their son/daughter would never do such things in real life... glad im 17 though... lol CoD4 for L1F3!
posted 6:37pm EDT - May 6th, 2008
114

Man I never knew I was a trained killer.  Man I am totally going on a rampage tonight!!!  I guess he assumes no females ever play this game.

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