y is Germany so strict on this? and here I thought these places were more secular and accepting of these things.

One is given the idea that you're referring to World War II, NightStalker. That's bad.

Back on topic, I think it's brilliant that Codemasters won't yield to the ratings boards. Rather than editing it, they can release it elsewhere, and it'll get imported. They'll still make money, and they get to "stick it to the man". We need more people like this. We need to let these Ratings Board Members know that games should be treated as an art medium--like movies, music and books. If any of these other media can come out with horrific, deplorable violence, why can't games? It's because the Ratings Boards don't quite see games as media, they see them as toys.

I am not referring to WWII at all. what gave you that idea? i was just wondering why they ban games like this.

Lol, if more countries does like this they will just end up in a national war lol, it's also bad for the economy. I mean, gaming is getting bigger and bigger, i think it was sometinhg like 30 billion$ or something..

Typical Europe, bunch of wimps out there.

@MephistoSoze

What I think NightStalker meant, and I don't know how you jumped to he conclusion he meant anything aboutWW2, is that some countries in the European Union are a lot more open about things in general, like the netherlands for example.  More liberal than the US in fact.

@Nitsu78 why are you talking about him jumping to the the conclusion that nightstalker would talk about wwll. I think this is just a biig conspericy

@ Enacku:
What are you talking about? =P
It's in the USA things are stict. =P 
And like the whole country goes rampage if they se a nipple on the tv =P

psn id: gingo.... Germany have always been strict on video games and i think it sucks for them but since i live in UK it doesn't bother me so much

lol, WWII?  I didn't get that impression....hmm....and damn, we need more companies standing up for their artistic standpoint....if all these people start crieing over a game being too suggestive or too violent, they are just preventing us from playing the game as it was actually meant to be played.  I dunno if anyone remembers ThrillKill and how that never ended up coming out here.....

and @enacku - you from Canada or something?  cause that sounded like some canadian statement....

Good, That how it should be done. All companies should refuse to edit their games on the request of rating boards. It's a direct violation of First ammendment here in the US. We don't edit nude art posted in museums so why should we edit games. What happened to people being able to choose weather to play the game or not. Like I always say, Don't like whats on... Change the channel!

Thats the end of my rant.

what the-? Crackdown, Company of Heroes, and now Jericho! they let women with painted on costumes into the Leipzig game show but not a couple of gorey games. Is Jack Thompson on that board?

im a musician and i hate when myspace refuses to post my songs.... i know what it feels like to state your mind, be creative, and be banned for it.... this is bull.... i applaud this dev..... if only rockstar would have did this with manhunt2 in america...

@Enacku: Way to represent the US.  No wonder everyone thinks we're a bunch of arrogant pricks.

^ good one. What are ratings for I wonder??

Screw this game. If I wanted to play in a dark cavern dripping with mud and blood I'd go to my mother-in-law's house.

I played the demo and I wasn't really impressed. But then again, I'm not the-rush-out-and-see-the-latest-horror-movie type of guy either. Maybe I'm just a wuss.

On the topic however, blocking a game for whatever content it has just draws more moths to the fire and give a game that may've otherwise been overlooked a bright shiny light. Or at the very least entice gamers to see what all the fuss is about.

The ratings boards have gotten a little out of hand.  Video games appear to be judged on a much harsher scale than movies, etc.  Germany has been the hardest of all for a long time... this is nothing new.  Video games have never been viewed as the same as other types of media and until they are... they will always be viewed as "toys" for "kids".  I think it is great that Codemasters refuses to bow to Germany's archaic demands.  Games like this are not supposed to be able to be purchased by minors anyway.  If they inforced their laws instead of trying to control media purchased by ADULTS they would be better off.  I personally am looking forward to this game.

ditto^^ btw...ive seen some scary german pron so they cant be THAT strict on stuff......