So true same goes for EGM & Gamepro who only recently started showing the PS3 in a positive light, and somtimes Gamepro wil have a review for a Multiplatform title and will only rate the 360 version im so sick of that crap its not even funny.

i still love GT. they supply me with all the vids i wanna see :)

this was sleezy, tho.

heh,  isnt bias wonderful? However, we must be careful not to fall into similar traps where the PS3 version is shown as being the better one. Still, cool article

LOL that funny I dont know why they would do that. But it definatly show how bias a lot of so called experts are. Take into consideration when you are watching x play on G4 how many times have you seen a multiplatform game reviewed on PS3 version before the X360 version?

Shame on you GT, I know for a fact anything done on X360 should be exactly possible on PS3, so I was a little confused as to why the PS3 version of GRID looked like cr@p in that video. When i had seen many other comparison videos of games like GTA IV which looked exactly the same on both systems

psn id: gingo.... i've always trusted gametrailers even though they were clearly xbox fanboys (i mean c'mon halo 3, 9.8 WTF!!!!!) but this is just the lowest of the low, shame on them but glad they have realised their mistake and pulled the video

This is nothing new or surprising for many people in the PS3Forums.

We have seen the media siding with the 360 even before the PS3 was launched, and this is no different, regardless what face they put on it.

I said before, that just as the media claimed it was up to SONY & the PS3 to prove themsleves, it is also up to the media to prove their professionalism & and objective/unbiased reporting of facts without clouding them with emotional opinion. Which I might add has absolutely no place in journalism.Yet, they do the opposite & prove our point..:lol:

Its hilarious that people who notice this onesided opinionated effluence are labelled as fanboys, and yet the gaming media appear to be the biggest fanboys of all & keeping their so-called "console wars" alight.

The media have an agenda & it so happens that this agenda sides with the 360.

Simply stop giving these morons site-hits...at least until they learn the meaning of the word "professionalism". They are not just trying to wound SONY/PS3, they are lying to their readers.....the very people that feed them.

Indeed, I understand. Like I said, great article dude.

I think we should all email g4tv and make them cover this, because I feel that this is certainly newsworthy on a station that constantly discusses videogames. But then they would probably have to get rid of X-Play.

gametrailers suck

Wow, graphically. They both look great.......until I saw the 2nd  video showing that some parts of the PS3 version were subbed as 360. I don't know about you guys, but this article is pushing it too hard.

I didn't even care about physics or anything like that until I saw the 2nd video. I just watched the first video thinking, wow! they both look and play great! But wow.....that's alot of scrutiny for just comparison videos. Still, it's just to journalists to weed each other out so we don't get inaccurate videos like that!

@FantasyStar

That is the way everyone should be thinking...even the media. Unfortunately its not the case.

Personally, I didn't much like the game either visually or the handling...but thats personal preference.

GT is a good site for info but as for showing witch ver looks better they somehow always make the xbox 360 look better or the set up the PS3 settings wrong like Assasin's Creed was one of them i don't know why they do this but if microsoft is paying some behide money to put them on top it sure is working lol aswell as for some ratings they sometimes they give a higher score to them not only in GT but in IGN and Gamespot anyhow this game looks really good on both not as good as GT but still something to play ^_^ i love codemasters anyway tho they need to make a new Second Sight game that game sure rocked and the story was very well done :)

Finally, caught!

 h3ll they are sooooooooo busted .dammmmmmmmmmn

You should be ashamed PSU. Go on, have a dig at a hugely famous website when they screw up in an attempt to make you look 'professional'?  Did it not cross your mind this could have been an honest screwup?

The thing is though, not only do you post this hugely inappropiate article, you then go on to post what could probably be classed as borderline libel by implying that Gametrailers have been paid off to do this. How utterly ridiculous.

Tthis should be a forum post, not a 'news' article.

@Alti

Typical Western attitude:  "Who cares how bad something is, I refuse to go without or sacrifice as long as it pleases me.  Look no further than this attitude as to why (all of) you get crapped on by these companies.

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...and don't get me started on EGM/1up.  I read that magazine from the first issue.  They used to BOAST about how unbiased they were.  They used to have thin months because advertsiers would pull out.  As a result, they got more credibility...BUT:

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The more powerful they got, they more money they were offered to sell out, and they eventually caved.  F V c k them...

Tell him dave W.  This story was very VERY appropriate!  This is for the casual gamer who doesnt look deeper on there own.

This bias isn't exclusive only for video game journalism either. All journalism has turned from an informative speech to an opinion speech... with SOME facts. The basic opinion of the speaker is coming out instead of what actually should be said. In doing so, the reader is missing out of what actually should be known, just because the reporter has a grudge toward something else. Personally, if they want their job, they will learn to take it and research into all the aspects before opening their damnable mouth and tell the reader/viewer what they need to know. In all retrospect, if someone asks me about a game, I will say "Well, if you like this-and-this in a game, it will be for you." If they want my opinion, I give it to them; this would be the scenario for an opinion, and not in a report (NOTE TO JOURNALISM! LRN2SCHOOL!).

Them b****rds,they should be fined i always thought something like this was going on.if they didnt get caught they would of never took the vid down.it ruin`s gaming for everyone when they promote the wrong console lol.

I agree, this is a great catch and a worthwhile news story, Im so sick of websites like this going pro MS and then all the xbox fanboys screeming see! we are better!  Its just like how gamespot took off like 2 points on Warhawks rating and the only bad thing they could FIND to say was that there was no in game tutorial!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hate to break it to you guys but having downloaded both versions of the demo the 360 comes out on top.  the PS3 version has more tearing and noticable drops in frame rate.  It also looks a bit rough particulalry on the menus and loading screens (not that they really matter).  just bare in mind that this is only a demo and things could change.

Im sorry...and average Joe can take your word for it?

If GT comparisons can be suspect & they are supposedly "unbiased" and "professional" then how do you expect to be believable considering your are of no standing within the gaming community? Its not personal, but Im sure you see my point.

As for the Demo from PSN, I haven't noticed any issues. And rough menus? Nonsense.......this is something I can easily disagree with.

But then...what do I care..I don't like the game.;)

OH MY GOD!!! Gametrailers should be searchig for hole to put themselves in it! What a scandal!!! This is way game reviews are ALWAYS BIASED!!! Always!!

Producers give exclusive reviews to those they know will score them big!!

SHAME ON YOU GAMTRAILERS!!! Shame on you!!

This is a situation where the demo videos are pointless. Both systems have demos that you can check out in real time, if you have either system you can experience it right there on the spot and say whether or not the game is good. I tried the demo the other night and it kicks a$s, plus it's cooler to watch in 720p on a 42 inch screen rather than a 600x800 video window on a 17inch laptop monitor!

Gamespot and gametarailers are one they always undermine the ps3 .The future of gameing is the ps3 blueray and cell.Now that the game developers are begining to konow the power of the cell processor the 360 will die as time go by.

I can't believe what GT has done. Shame on you!!! I hope somethings done about this. 

"I specifically used the word "we," which clearly includes all journalists (including us) into that spectrum."

Ehh, clear as mud. Read your article again- the reference to the 'we' before you posted your mini-rant was "We've included the video below.", and, unless all journalists are responsible for 'including' that video, that means you're referring to 'we' as PSU journalists. My original point stands.

"If this had been a "mistake," you would have seen the video reuploaded with the appropriate clips edited in to further support their comparisons. It's been awhile since it was taken down and fixing that issue would have taken mere minutes."

Oh, because that clearly means it wasn't an honest mistake. You're assuming far, far too much.
 
"This is news, whether you'd like it to be or not."

If this, or anything where a journalistic site screws up, is 'news' then why does no reputable site post it? Oh wait, because you don't post stuff like this. I think you'll find anyone successful in -any- trade won't go around while representing their business saying things like "haha, look! here's a rival making a mistake! lets point it out to everyone and make them look bad!"

"Things like this have happened before and the casual gamer doesn't ever take note of this and is therefore given the false representation of what to expect and what to believe."

Gees, I'm not going to go there with this.

"When you're a legitimate website like GT.com is, you have to maintain that sense of pride and work that got you to that point."

Yes, you have to maintain a sense of pride, which is exactly my point about why you shouldn't post this. 

"Also, no where did I take a 'dig' at GameTrailers. I didn't tell people to not view their website, nor did I insult them in any shape or form." 

Heh, are you a member of the labour party by any chance? I think they'd like you. :)

@GunTeng

compared to the 360 version they look a little rough around the edges.  if i had never seen the 360 demo i would not have noticed! chillout a bit its only a game!

owned

@Mikleran

take your fanboy rant somewhere else. Your thoughts on this matter are laughable at best. Normally companys donät make these type of mistakes more then once. and yet here we are.

go bother Kotaku they have the samething posted there, even tho "no other site is running this"

http://kotaku.com/5008547/gametrailers-blows-it-with-ps3360-footage

Truly it boggles the mind how this type of "mistake" could even happen in the first place

I'm not attacking him I'm just letting him know my opinion of him. Because I have the right to my opinion here. right?

fair enough

but good post and I totally agree on the points you made about game companys and platform makers "buying" media support.

Gametrailers comparison sucks so bad. Especially the one with Assassins Creed. The PS3 version was much more brighter than Xbox 360 and it looked awful. Then I saw the game on my friends new big and superclear full HD-TV and the picture was superb, nothing like Gametrailers comparison at all.

Gametrailers is comparing TV's not games.

well as much as it pains me to say it, some ppl deserve a little attack, when people close their minds and refuse to see the fact that many websites have corrupt writers that love to let their biases morph their reviews. this is evident in many sites. its very easy to tell when a XBOX fan makes a review of a PS3 game, thats why i am a little more happy with IGN who uses sepertate teams which is how it should be, or there shouldnt be any sites that do all systems, maybe it would be better off if we just had sites liek PSU or teamxbox, atleast you dont see this kinda of crap happening nearly as much.

The guy correctly points out that it is not the first time GT have done this.  Maybe you remember a 360 vs PS3 comparison of Assassin's Creed, where they claimed the graphics are more washed out on PS3?  That's what they would have seen with the PS3 RGB mode set to 'limited'.  With RGB on 'full', there's literally no difference in terms of colour / shadows between the versions. 

I've done a very small amount of research and linked to a few more offending comparison trailers below.

Assassin's Creed - http://www.gametrailers.com/player/28005.html?type=   (colour diff's)

Elder Scrolls - http://www.gametrailers.com/player/18049.html?type=   (colour diff's)

Burnout Paradise - http://www.gametrailers.com/player/29926.html?type=    (mislabeling of some clips and vast colour differences again)

These videos should be pulled and amendments should be made to reviews for people who are curious about buying these releases in future.  Even then - a lot of damage has been done because gamers with both - or no console who wanted these games may have made their choice based on these awful comparisons. 

GT lose all respect for this.  These 'mistakes' only proves GT are a bunch of incompetent idiots - or very well paid sc^m.

First GamePro just made their reviews to give the 360 all the credit, but for this I got to say, YOU SUCK GameTrailers! Man or is GRID to blame? Are they trying to beat Gran Turismo 5 Prologue this badly?

(WTF)!!!!!! there tryin to pull. what the H***!! GT. this is a total attack on the PS3. I'm calling out these b*%#$ on the blogs. something needs to be done. wha de bumba clot dem a do.

Unbelievable. I can't believe how much Microsoft has brainwashed everyone in the media to think they're better and dis Sony every chance they get. Shame on GT fro perpetuating the bias, and good on whoever caught it. Sickening.

@ZombieKing

GRID cannot be put anywhere near the same catagory as GT.

The visuals arn't close nough & the handling is nowhere near the same galaxy as GT5P.

If you are looking for a closer comparison...try PGR with crash damage.

 wow, that was sick. great article.

No, he needs to be attack. you take the time to get information 24/7 around the clock to make sure we are keep up to date and on top of that its something that people are trying to make the ps3 look like we have a bad system. damn right attack him. Until he find something like this he has no right to call what is news or not. Its time that devs and web sites be point out about how the are trying to make us look bad. SONY need to take a look at this for real. If they want to cont. to grow then they need to so people who are trying to pick their next gen system. You did the right thing buy pointing this out because I'm sure that every ps3 owner is hot about this. Because when I looked at the first video I was like "damn we got another s.h.i.t.t.y port down when it was ps3 on both sides and they made one look like crap and gave it to you know who.

psn id I95SOUTH<--- Ready to start a war with outside haters, save id for new world game order

lol, this is a very funny article. we all knew the media was backing Microsoft from day one, thats why Sony got so much heat for the PS3. the proof is always in the pudding and PS3's pudding is so sweet right now, for me anyways!!!!!!

 Totally upset. This is 2008 and this kind of crap is still happening. Sony needs to pull its adds from that site. M$ is now running scared now that the PS3 is picking up momentum even without dropping its price tag.  Have you all seen KZ2 and GOW2. KillZone 2 obliterate that game. RFOM2  is even looking fracking  awesome and FFXIII has yet to be released. PS3 is the system to have now especially with its extra entertainment value.

@195South

No he doesn't need to be verbally attacked...no one does.

To be absolutely fair, he is only questioning reports provided to the gamers, just as I and many others have been questioning the media since E306 over their attitude and reports on the PS3 & lack of with the 360.

Granted, he goes about it in an aggressive manner which makes it look like an accusation ( in parts it was), but attacking him will not prove any argument....it will just inflame one more,

Although in one hand he is accusing Mr.W of the very same style of reporting that people defend, from sites like GT, IGN or Gamespot , and for the very same reasons. I think one should be careful not to contradict themselves, although I cannot say that this poster is guilty of this. Everyone should be subject to the same rules & judgements....including platform manufacturers where the media is concerned.

There is every chance that someone who disagrees with you just might highlight an issue you may not have thought about. This has happened tto me on a number of occasions, simply because I listened instead of attacking.

On the other hand, there have been times when no one listened to me and instead attacked me because of my views and opinions ( my beliefs of a media with an agenda as one example). To this day the very same people believe the same crap and are no wiser for it.

This little drama has highlighted the issue within the media for a final time with some...now some people are actually thinking back and taking stock of all the points put forward at an earlier time.

The point is...you get better results by listening and debating than you will by attacking, even if it takes a while for the points to sink in. As for GameTrailers and other media outlets? They have done enough talking and so have the gamers.....sometimes enough is enough.

Although I do agree with one point.

He cannot dictate what is news & what is not, especially when he is defending a site that has on many occasions made news from a delayed PS game, yet ignore such a major issue as an RROD or made excuses for it whilst patting MS on the back for "treating" the issue rather than curing it.

 GT is owned by MTV, which is owned by Viacom which is in bed with Microsoft. Just google "Viacom Microsoft" to see what deals they have recently made. So no surprises here...

It's really pointless to look at comparisons on muli-platform games cause they are almost always going to be the exact same in graphics(Unlike EA games) Only games that are made when developers concentrate on one console and not the rest would sometimes have the amazing results when done on PS3

Simply put, I will never trust GameTrailers for side-by-side comparisons again.

Small things like this can destroy others reputation, but please be carefull with calling the entire gt baised as it was this vid and another one.

I just wish i could see how many people said the 360 version looked better, even though they were the same versions.  LOL, that would be hilarious to catch them in the act!

@ Bigsmoke94

This is why i hate Microsoft, they like to stick their penis in everything. sooner or later they will catch AIDS. LOL

but back on topic, excellent job DW, this stuff needs to be reported.

i hate when they try to make one game look better than another because that could ultimately bring down the sales of one system if people keep seing the games look better on another system especially if the system is the cheaper one but this is so low, i truely think microsoft pays them, thats why i try things for myself and ask other people rather than look online.

didn't any of you notice they are both the PS3. look at around 1:26 it say Xbox in the corner yet the controls in the other corner for the replay are PS3

Gametrailers is a very good site and I love them for posting trailers and vids for everything. If you want news go to SponG.com but if you are looking for games come to PSU. There's nothing on this page if I read correctly that has implication that Microsoft could be bribing these sites just to let some of you know. My two cents on how this happened is that it could not have been a mistake. How could you hold a PS controller and not know that is a PS controller. If you were taking clips how could you mistake what is good and what is not, even worse if they were both the same console and they dumbed one down on purpose. It's evident that is a trickery. Shame on who made that trailer, fake piece of $#%@ we don't need your news.

What a shame, but then again all people have some sort of biased in them, in one form or another so in truth it's not really unlikely that something like this wouldn't happen

I have both systems ,  its clear PS3 is much better 

Easily the PS3 one looked better. I'm not saying that out of bias but out of facts. The shadows and colors were much better on the PS3. A/w bias from GT has been a constant porblem for a while. Its easily noticable. Search for a PS3 game and the 360 box will show up if its a muti platformer, always.

Now they've totally lost credibility. Don't think noone will trust their comparisons anymore.

@General00 you're right they're busted it's only one demo XD

they didnt realise their mistake they realisded they got caught this sould completly destroy any trust any one has for this web site

But i must say although the graphics are acturly better on the ps3 version it almost give it a sort of staleness while the 360 is slightly blured it seems warmer and more emmersive hmm i dunno might just be an effect added to this video by these loseres

yea well ima regular to the GT.com forums and they dont allows vs threads like GeOW2vsKZ2 or MGSvs splintercell

but then they show clips like this which is obviously pitting both systems against each other... talk about hypocritical....

1. My 360 dying is news. Go make an article about it. Okay, I should probably have said this isn't appropriate news, especially with the whole "journalistic bribery" theme in the bottom half of the article. Read further down, I'll explain there.

2. Oh Gees yes, your second 'we' lacks any "context" (as you put it) so it's fair to assume that it's the same we as the last definition! I'm not going to argue with you anymore on that, it's a black and white thing.

3. Yes, you are still assuming. :) Go look at dictionary.com as to what an assumption is; I "assume" you like that website after recommending me to it.

4. Completely different forms of media? Lol, you are both boats in the sea gaming journalism, with both of you jumping out on game review island while you also dropoff at gaming "news". Whatever PR spin you want to put on it, you both do reviews of games and are both competing for people on review island to read/watch your reviews and thus you are rivals.

While we're here, lets talk about the boat that is Kotaku. I didn't realise they'd posted an article, but that's not really the point- they are a blog! They don't attempt to take as much as a professional look on things as you guys try to; they add frequent humour and have a more casual feel about everything they do. So, when we look at what they actually posted, and we see that they didn't try to start making accusations about bribery in the industry or anything immature like that, I'd say what they wrote is fair enough for them. You however- no, I still stand by the point that you shouldn't have posted this. :)

5. Point out mistakes and how you are better is a different thing from pointing out mistakes and laughing at them from a high horse. And no, you don't see "Microsoft" as a company come out in a conference or a press release attacking Sony, you see employees come out and comment on things when pushed by journalists. Kinda like you posting on a forum your views, not on your official stance in a news article. I did word that badly before.

@Agriel, I laughed at that, not only because it came from you but because of the ridiculousness of what you're saying. Do you think I'm a Gametrailers fanboy or something? Heh, I'm laughing just writing that. Couldya post something saying "Mikleran, you're a gametrailers fanboy" if you do so that I can put it as a forum signature?

@GunTeng, from past experience 'aggressive' is the only setting this place will listen to. :)

@motzo, thanks for that! ^o)

Wow Dirt is shaping up to be a real GT5 threat, with the lighting and damage physics.  I think the cars are too strong though, real cars crumple like in BurnOut

This just drives me to be a Sony fan more. If Gametrailers if anyway paid by microsoft it just makes me hate them more. I remember a time when you could see how far you could get in Spyro and now its how long you can play a playstation game without being attacked with material such as this

Sorry Mikleran, news is still news. Why don't you start "news" about your dying 360 eh? Anyway, I believe the context is there, and if you still don't see, maybe you'll have to take English Class all over again.  I'm an English Major student, and I can differentiate between the two kinds of "we" that were used. "in the world of Journalism..." learn to read, not skim.

play17boy08 I could not agree with you more.  I've been a loyal gampro subscriber since 1989.  The last couple of issue have been so biased it's repulsive.  I will never give that crap magazine another penny (eventhough I'm sure Microsoft is giving them money).  It's honestly pathetic that Gamepro has allowed itself become so un-godly biased.  I'm sure game informer will thank them for a new customer.

Sorry Mikleran, I have never seen you jumping up and down like this when GameTrailers, IGN, Gamespot or any other so called professional gaming media site that make enormous amounts of news out of a game delay & make claims of proken promises & other Anti-SONY slogans. Yet at the same time, I have never seen you jump on them like you have here & claim they are using doublestandards for not doing the same thing with MicroSoft, while  patting them on the back for a successful PR rip-off over the RROD.

So as far as I am concerned, your poiints lack any meaning simply because I have not seen you treat the media sites equally.

Oh...and I haven't seen any assumptions made by PSU. They see the facts, post them and allow for gamer comments, yet do not attempt to make their own opinion on the matter .

I haven't read anything from them claiming GameTrailers are biased....all I have read between the lines is them questioning what was evident.

They make no statements other than provide what facts are there and they make no proclaimations of corruption or bias.

At the most they just question with well known facts.And considering GameTrailers have not made any official comments regarding this, PSU cannot rightly post any apologies or comments from any side.

nothing suprising

the trailer has been reposted this morning.....

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/33799.html

The crashes have been made the same for both versions, check it out for yourselves.....

LMFAO and they think people will believe that these are actual & true comparisons now?

Hardly....they have proven that they manipulate the footage, so who is to say they have not manipulated this footage even if they look the exact same. Even if they showed the PS3 as having better footage, PS3 fans cannot believe them simply because it would be thought they are doing it to gain site hits and get rid of the stink they have put on their name.

GameTrailers have absolutely no credibility for professionalism or objectiveness & nothing they can do now will change that.

Give it 5 or 10 years and maybe new gamers will never know about their BS.

BTW..I now firmly believe that anyone using GameTrailers as a source for info or comparisons should be banned automatically if they provide links to their site or their videos (personal preference).