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Gabe Newell of Valve doesn't like consoles

Posted on August 26th, 2007 at 12:51 EDT

Valve head honcho, Gabe Newell, is not too happy with the consoles it seems.

In a recent interview with news blog Kotaku, Gabe talked about the upcoming Orange box. He also showed his love for the PC as a gaming platform, saying how sales are great. He also believes that ‘the graphics you find on consoles are essentially derivative of the PC’. Well with Half-Life franchise still making money, the love is not misplaced.


While he wasn’t too kind about Microsoft’s approach to PC and 360 cross platform games, he had more bile for the PS3, saying “I don't think they spent nearly enough time talking to developers when they were developing the PS3”, and how “It's less friendly for developers”

“It's a hardware architectural problem. I don't think they thought through the Cell architecture. The hardware is only as good as the software it enables”

Fair enough, but a lot of games have worked fantastically well on the PS3, so surely it’s not impossible. Maybe it even pushes developer to try just that little bit harder? Hell, Orange Box contains 6 games in it.

Either way, Orange Box is due out on 9th October, and features the award winning Half-Life games, gravity puzzle game Portals, and Multiplayer focused Team Fortress 2.

Stay tuned.

Source: Kotaku

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posted 12:57pm EDT - August 26th, 2007
1

Uh oh, hope this doesn't mean his crew will give us another inferior port of a good game ( or games in this case).

posted 12:58pm EDT - August 26th, 2007
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psn id: gingo.... i understand where he's comnig from but a bit of hard work never done anyone any harm

posted 1:01pm EDT - August 26th, 2007
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he just sounds like a PC fanboy and a console hater in general

posted 1:06pm EDT - August 26th, 2007
4

That fat tit doesn't even have the right to talk about the PS3 architecture,they can't even manage to deliver the game on time,so why shouldn't i just consider this a pathetic excuse.

posted 1:42pm EDT - August 26th, 2007
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He's just a fat nerd who is lazy to make games on a POWERFUL SYSTEM. All his life he been a PC nerd. I could see him sit in front of a PC playing gamesall freaking day and eating potato chips. No wonder he's fat and nerdy.

posted 1:42pm EDT - August 26th, 2007
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he does seem to like fastfood though

posted 1:43pm EDT - August 26th, 2007
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if you stare at the picture, I think he is actualy getting fatter, maybe its just me..

posted 1:48pm EDT - August 26th, 2007
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yea fat old people usually dont like consoles, its a young thing, despite this FACT, i love half life and hope it isnt a bad port when it comes to ps3, who knows how many months n months maybe even years i enjoyed killing rebels ^_^

ps3 ID: TheKingpin

posted 2:09pm EDT - August 26th, 2007
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Oops, he criticized the PS3. Time for all the fanboys to come out and call him a fat lazy b**** who can't make games regardless of the company's actual skill at making games.:rolleyes: I assume if he said something nice about the PS3 you guys would be kissing his feet, right? Being that Valve is one of the few genuinally talented developers still in existence you guys should be glad that he wasn't as harsh on the PS3 as some other people have been.
posted 2:10pm EDT - August 26th, 2007
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looks like don vito from viva la bam, the fat prick up how can he say anything bad about PS3 or xbox, probly cant afford either of um

posted 2:11pm EDT - August 26th, 2007
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A dude thats made his LIVING off of Steam and churning out games that force you to update your graphics cards for the last decade dosent like consoles? FRIGGIN' DUH. I bet thing you;ll tell us is he dosent like controllers. If he's bltching about consoles it's because they arnt PCs!

posted 3:04pm EDT - August 26th, 2007
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i agree with galaxyman's comment on this one it seems like whenever a developer or someone in that nature gives their opinion about the ps3 that you guys don't like you insult that person cause he didnt say something good about the ps3. if the guy doesnt like the ps3 or 360 than thats his problem dont' diss him cause criticised it. but we have to be thankful about him bringing orange box to the ps3 cause he really didn't have and that coul've been another loss for the ps3. at least give him some respect for making good games and at least bringing them on to ps3.

posted 3:19pm EDT - August 26th, 2007
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who cares what he thinks.

posted 3:25pm EDT - August 26th, 2007
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i thought we got a computer,Sony COMPUTER entertainment

posted 4:43pm EDT - August 26th, 2007
15

Gabe who...?????lol

posted 4:48pm EDT - August 26th, 2007
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@ baker_44, your an idiot, can't afford either of the systems? dude this guy is the creator of VALVe Corporation, which created one of the best games of all time (Half-Life 1 & 2) I think he has earned the respect with the Source Engine that HL2 and Counter-strike runs on, on PC to criticize Sony and Microsoft. Either way, I wouldn't be surprised if its a bad port, but VALVe usually delivers....buggy software. Glitches Ahoy! I can't wait to see the glitches in Portal and HL2.

posted 5:21pm EDT - August 26th, 2007
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I only opened this to see how many people were calling him fat :D:D

posted 5:38pm EDT - August 26th, 2007
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those who expect great things for the PS3 orange box release should cross their fingers, didnt valve did only the xbox360 version and out sourced the PS3 version to EA (yeah, there goes a chance of a good port)? I wouldnt be spending money on this game, at least til the reviews are out.

posted 7:19pm EDT - August 26th, 2007
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So he doesn't like developing for consoles?  That's $62.99 that just got freed up in my wallet.  I have no time for developers' excuses and he just convinced me not to buy the Orange Box set.  I understand that devewloping for consoles is different and can be challenging but to diss a console because of it only reveals your ignorance and incompetence.  Oh well!  I guess I can worry about other games instead of this one now.

posted 7:42pm EDT - August 26th, 2007
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omg you guys need to take a midol!! i love my ps3 but lets be honest...it is hard to program for. he was just saying the obvious. he prefers what he is used to doing. he didn't say the ps3 was underpowered or overrated he just said it was hard. was he crying a little .....yeah....does he even do any of the programing himself....no....he has people working on it......he was just trying to justify his delayed release...which even Sony has problems meeting their promised release dates so back the heck off. he is delivering probably one of the greatest game franchises ever to the ps3 in a five game in one box set.....we are getting the greatest steal ever with this deal so shut up! you don't like it deal with it...the ps3 isn't perfect....for all the great advances and power the cell arcitecture gives us we have to trade off some other performance flaws because it is completely different than anything these programers have ever written for. there is a learning curve and we will suffer at first but omg will it pay off in a year or so. if you aren't happy too bad because you won't be buying any games for awhile if you refuse to buy a game that gets delayed or says the console is difficult. YOU are missing out! not the rest of the fair minded people like myself that understands and will buy this game on release day. i love my ps3...and I love these guys for bringing a great game to it. do I love shoddy games blamed on how hard it is....heck no...but this game won't be shoddy...it should be brilliant. why don't we save our criticism for after it is released if it deserves it. games like madden and splinter cell....not ones that the makers don't kiss sony's butt. alot of people don't like the ps3 but they know it is where the money will lie so they will go for it....otherwise it is much easier making cheeseburgers for 360 and pc than steak for the ps3. i like my steak...and i am going to buy this game when it is launched.

posted 8:25pm EDT - August 26th, 2007
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Why am I not surprised. He spouted this same nonsense before. It's funny. You will see some devs coplain about this or that but the devs that have brought some amazing stuff to light in this console generation, are not complaining about consoles. In forums I come across PC game devs who complain and console devs seem to say "There is more than one way to skin a cat".

I think this just shows that the only thing wrong here is gabe's fram of mind.

posted 8:39pm EDT - August 26th, 2007
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Why is everyone commenting about his weight? For f*** sake people get over it.. its not his weight that is the problem - it's his gay attitude and the fact that he doesnt know $hit about anything thats the matter.

posted 8:57pm EDT - August 26th, 2007
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obvioulsy this guy knows what he's talking about, nothing personal just business guys.... i have to agree with davin_g(i posted info about warhawk for you)... you guys are taking this guys oppinion way to seriously... the orange box is probably the greatest deal in gaming history....  PS, yeah PS3 delays SUUUUc, but usually there worth it, sometimes there not...  a good delay on this games probably worth it.. just chill, and wait till the games out... untill then, if you a gamer GO play Games!!... im going on graw2 right now... don't complain about something that isn't final... your just wasteing your breath, when you could be online fragging people....

posted 9:01pm EDT - August 26th, 2007
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someone as fat as this fu*k sould have plenty of time to figure out how to programe for the PS3 its not like he stand up all that much so maybe if he spent his time figureing out about the ps3 dev tools instead of complaning and eating he would have something more intelegent to say.

posted 9:41pm EDT - August 26th, 2007
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Alright... Enough already.... SO he's not a fan of xbox or Ps3....Says the PS3 is hard to develop for..... I'm I the only one who is tired of hearing this crap?? When the PS2 came out... "oh.. its so hard to develop for" and now some of the best games (visually as well as playability) are sold for the PS2..... Maybe he is right and Sony didn't spend enough time educating developers on the new architecture but suck it up.... Seems no one likes challenges anymore... Of course he loves PC's... Valve's been developing for PC's for years.. so its easy to work with... GIMME A BREAK AND STOP THE F***IN CRYING!!!.... Understand the challenge and overcome it... its called progression you twit....Stop taking the easy way out and really show people what you are capable of....
posted 11:28pm EDT - August 26th, 2007
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i like what Drazden said... i'm fat too lol so i ain't going there regarding the weight. I have not even played any of Valve's games and to be honest any pC games. I think they're a bit corny... just a little. Say what you will Gabe, wether right or wrong, i love what Sony has created and what's one more jab gonna actually do? Don't know too much of the tech jargon to say much here but hey Sony approach that like "Don't care what they are saying as long as they're talking about you". They got your name on their lips...... and who the h3ll don't? lol
posted 11:49pm EDT - August 26th, 2007
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Who cares what he says as long as there is a Half Life 3 im all good hahaha.

posted 12:19am EDT - August 27th, 2007
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How long have game developers been developing games for the PC? and how long have game developers been developing for Next Gen Consoles? hmm...

posted 1:10am EDT - August 27th, 2007
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In other words he's b!tching because he's bad at his job

posted 3:28am EDT - August 27th, 2007
30

Take a cookie and dry your eyes Gabe.

posted 1:06pm EDT - August 27th, 2007
31

I would say he knows what he is talking about. If you want to find out how hard it is to develop a game for PS3, you ask a developer. This guy is one of the best. whether or not you think he is making excuses or not- there is one main point. That being that NObody likes to develop for the PS3 so far. thats why all the games are crapola. at least we can all play our 360s until the good games come out next christmas, right?

posted 2:30pm EDT - August 27th, 2007
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I believe someone on Kotaku made the correct statement, "I ate a baby".
posted 6:04pm EDT - August 27th, 2007
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that mna is fat

posted 6:07pm EDT - August 27th, 2007
34

Oh well they cant see that its the consoles everyone is buying not computers anymore hes just jealous.

posted 9:32pm EDT - August 27th, 2007
35
i don't know.....what this guy is talking about but i.. think he is just a bord and fat nerd looking for something to complain about. u's know how nerds are? "ing ing ing ing ing" bout this. "ing ing ing ing ing" bout that. they never shut there faces. and bill gates creater of that DIS-GUSTING xbox 360 is a >PERFECT< example. and jiff zero right to.
posted 11:14pm EDT - August 27th, 2007
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This is a little off topic hear but, PC gaming sucks. its so expensive and risky. you go out and buy a game but what do you know, you have to buy a 100-something graphics card, free up a bunch of space somehow, or just spend a butt load of money on an alienware, THEN you don't even know if the program will run on you computer or not. ugh. i hate it. sorry, gotta defend the consoles.

posted 12:08am EDT - August 28th, 2007
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Ok first off I agree with the minority in these replies, its pretty sad the comments coming out about this guy's wait. Seriously, its pretty sad. That being said I think he has a sorry excuse on why he hates consoles, especially the PS3 being hard to code for. It's like EA saying they did not have enough time to properly code Madden 08 for 60 fps, while games like Heavenly Sword and Haze are being made for the PS3. That being said sometimes you've gotta learn something new. I'm sure people that coded for Atari or the NES thought the new systems we're hard, but they coded for em, learned it, and moved on. This guy needs to accept that. Sadly while PC gaming is cool, I was a die hard Starcraft fan, but it is a major pain to have to buy new hardware every time a new FPS comes out, especially if your into it competively.

posted 3:06pm EDT - August 28th, 2007
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He aint a fan of Wii fit by the looks of it either. No ambition.

posted 7:12am EDT - August 29th, 2007
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PS3 or Xbox 360's are not going to match the PC in terms of specs, flexibility, upgradeability & platform stability. There are millions of people who are able to work on PC's so its easier to develop for. His points are absolutely valid. This guy that some of you seem to be laughing at happens to be the person who made three of the worlds top 100 games of all time. Two of these games are in the top 20 so I'd trust his judgment before some nobody posters on a PS3 forum - no offense people but that the truth OK. This guy your taking shots at can spell - so he's ahead of most of you already. He can also program, manage a production team, he can run a successful multi-million dollar business (one that he founded)... Gabe Newell was a multi millionaire from software development & savvy investment before he even started Valve Corporation. I think this guy has credentials. And while you are knocking his weight and “bad looks” should note that he is married to a absolutely stunning woman. Lucky BSTRD!

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