PES is an excellent footy game i've had it for a week now and it is ace. Konami just need to sort out the online lag.

I agree.. the game has it's faults and is not what we where promised. But when it all comes down to it it is still the best football game on the next gen systems. I just hope that PES2009 will step up.. because FIFA is narrowing the gap.

I must say this game and Fifa are the best one's anyone that likes football will like this game :)

a major let down.

after being a solid pes fan my how life this year i though id give fifa a chance due to the fact im a leeds fan and wanted to play as leeds. i also bought pes 2008 as i love pes and can get enough of it.  this years installment of pes is the worst ever and is simply awful the gamplay is laggy and the online is even laggier and the graphics are alwful. whereas with fifa the graphics are spotless and the gameplay is good but not as good as last years pes. i  will give pes another chance next year because i still want to play the brilliant pes i just hope next years is the game we all wanted. avoid pes this year and go to fifa this year pes has lost their crown but next year i hope thye can win it back with the gameplay we all love. fifa i give 7.8 out of 10. pes i give 5.8 out of ten. major let down.

they should have had the online thing sorted by now

dont tell me PES is turning into madden, with sloppy sloppy

With the offline slow down try turning all the screen dispalys off as this has cured all the frame rate issues which I initially experianced (apart from the cr%p replays) on my system.

konami did this year a terrible job, fifa 08 is much much better !