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Valve: "We're not PS3 developers"

Posted on May 5th, 2008 at 09:44 EDT

Most of us are more than aware that Valve seems to dislike the PlayStation 3. This has never more evident; they hired someone else to port The Orange Box over to the PS3. As we're sure most of you agree, that was a complete disaster as EA botched the port almost 100%. With Valve's upcoming title, Left 4 Dead, set to release on just the PC and 360, it almost leaves you wondering, "What about the PS3?" According to Valve, if someone is willing to port the game over to the PS3, we could be getting the chance to take a gander at the zombie-shooter.

Lombardi told CVG, "We're not PS3 developers - we're doing PC and 360 like with Orange Box. EA came to us and said 'Wow, Orange box was an incredible project, can we do a PS3 version?'

"If you mention a new Half-Life, people want to make as many versions of it as possible. If Left 4 Dead is big, then we may see a PS3 version later, or if and when we do a sequel, people may be more interested in that. We're only 150 people, so there's only so many things we can do. But it's one of those things with partners, wanting to take on that investment and risk. I think until L4D is proven, you'll probably just see what we make in that franchise."

From these comments you can take away that there is still some possibility that we may get to experience Valve's next shooter; however, we'll have to wait and see at what expense considering their last licensed port offering from EA was less than desirable in terms of quality. If any publishers jump at the chance to have the opportunity to bring it the PS3, we'll keep you guys updated.

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posted 9:46am EDT - May 5th, 2008
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basically they are tell PS3 fans "we sucks, we cant make game for console"

posted 9:51am EDT - May 5th, 2008
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Thats an easy way out of a problem!!!

 

´´Hey, if we cant do it, lets say we dont like to do it!! And then we dont it! - Valve Employe``

 

 Valve should be ashamed for the news above. Geez!!! Al least they could say something like ´´we dont have a large enough team`` or ´´we lack PS3 specialazed personal to do it``.

posted 9:55am EDT - May 5th, 2008
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All I can say is slack.  to be honest I had never even heard of the game until this article so I don't really care.  Left 4 Dead looks like just another game to me, nothing special.

posted 9:56am EDT - May 5th, 2008
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Valve sucks

posted 10:00am EDT - May 5th, 2008
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yay look at me im valve cant be fcked to bother programing outside the box

posted 10:02am EDT - May 5th, 2008
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don't even bother, any respectable ps3 owner will not buy it.
posted 10:10am EDT - May 5th, 2008
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As much as i dislike Valve... as in burn-the-building-to-the-ground dislike, i still think Left 4 Dead looks cool and will more than likely get it on the 360. I hate Valve with a vengence though, so there is no way on Earth i'd ever make my PS3 sick with garbage like the Orange Box.

posted 10:12am EDT - May 5th, 2008
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They have a fat guy as an owner don't trust them

 

posted 10:15am EDT - May 5th, 2008
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to be honest there are enough games that im interested in so this one can go to the 360/pc... not that bothered about it n as zarajoe said didnt even know it existed till this artice....

posted 10:29am EDT - May 5th, 2008
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What a bunch of lazy morons. Have fun watching your game get pirated to death on PC and 360 while you conveniently ignore the only hack-proof platform.

posted 10:36am EDT - May 5th, 2008
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most developers say that game's are harder to develop on the PS3 and takes a lot of money, but most of them would admitt the PS3 is a massive power house and they would love to develop on it. developer's like INSOMNIAC are going to prove them wrong later this year. so Valve sucks until they give us a great title. I'm gonna stop playing the Orange Box.

posted 10:38am EDT - May 5th, 2008
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I don't want their crappy games anyway if they can't appreciate my favorite system.

posted 10:40am EDT - May 5th, 2008
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ps3 was hacked in japan less then a week after release so dont say things u dont understand. valve are great devs but need to hire more people to cover more consoles

posted 10:48am EDT - May 5th, 2008
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Valve sucks . They are not developers they are noobs :S

posted 10:56am EDT - May 5th, 2008
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we don't need any of their games.
posted 11:02am EDT - May 5th, 2008
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i just love counter-strike (other valve games are stupid) even counter-srtike source is sucks to (only best is 1.6 )

posted 11:08am EDT - May 5th, 2008
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although i do hate valva i disagree with u lot about orange box as it wasnt a complete disaster on the ps3 as it was certainly playable with when i played through half and it episode i had no problems whatsover and it was enjoyable. portal was faultless and the legendary team fort2 has a few hitches like once a months worth but it only lasts about a minute before fixing itself so saying it was botched 100% is an overstatement id say about 100x less than that.

posted 11:21am EDT - May 5th, 2008
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 They need to grow a pair and get more people, to develop some games for the ps3

posted 11:24am EDT - May 5th, 2008
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They are only 150 people so they can only develop for the pc and 360.how bout we`re only 150 people so we`re booting the 360 and only developing for the pc n ps3, the 360 just doesnt offer as much potential as the ps3...this is what any decent games company telling the truth would of said,just lazy n tight.

posted 11:32am EDT - May 5th, 2008
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how can valve call themselves game developers if they dont give a rats azz about the fans that grew up with half life and counter strike all they care about is the easy way out. try to make a game b4 u give up, just because u have a few A+ games under ur belt doesent mean that u r the best and ppl should kiss ur feet to make a crapy port lik the orange box, if u guys act like that dont even make a port for the ps3 or even games for that matter. U GUYS Lost 1 costumer.

posted 11:38am EDT - May 5th, 2008
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don't bother porting that left 4 dead s**te....i'm happy with my PS3 exclusives

posted 11:50am EDT - May 5th, 2008
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Trouble with valve is theyre only competant 2 programme 4 an easy straight forward basic noisy broken down machine like the sh**e box 3 fix me where as were happy with real programmers like Insomniac, Polyphony Digital,Naughty dog,& Konami just 2 name a few
posted 11:54am EDT - May 5th, 2008
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I've read multiple times on different sites that the people in charge at valve strongly dislike the ps3 because it's not made by microsoft.....kinda like konami w/ the ps3 exclusives....but to be honest....these feelings are of course generated by  loyalty payments....

posted 11:55am EDT - May 5th, 2008
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Please, people. Valve does not completely suck. While I hate them for not paying attention to the PlayStation 3, their Half-Life series is one of the best action game series ever created. Really. Most games they make get great reviews and are truly fun and playable, and they have really been pioneers in the online gaming community with Steam. Valve might not be PS3 fans, but saying that they can't develop is a lie.

posted 12:06pm EDT - May 5th, 2008
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@proog

I disagree, Valve's been using the same Source engine and revamped versions of it for years to come. While I can agree that  they're not crappy developers, they sure as not as bright as they were after they incorporated physics into the Steam Engine.

I have little respect for Valve considering all they push out is crap for the PS3. Mind you I still like to play Counter-Strike, but that's like over 10 years old!  But at least Valve is admitting they suck developing for PS3.

 

posted 12:18pm EDT - May 5th, 2008
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However they like to charge more for the 360 than the PC version of orange box. Even though I have a 360 and PS3 I have a good PC, thinking of buying Orange Box only $39 on Steam works out about £20 so they get all that money through Steam and 360 Sales surely they should have enough money to make a PS3 development department. I mean for sure Developing on the 360 and PC is all geared around MS but PS3 does have a big market share to, I wouldn't want to shoot my self in the foot like that. Surely it would be far easier to keep your reputation if you had a PS3 Dev Team rather than relying on EA's crappy port work.

posted 12:24pm EDT - May 5th, 2008
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Whatever, their games blow donkey balls!

posted 12:26pm EDT - May 5th, 2008
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psn id: gingo.... well at least they can admit they are lazy b******s unlike some companies *cough* EA..... Ubisoft *cough*

posted 12:26pm EDT - May 5th, 2008
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I think you got the quote wrong! It should read: 

Lombardi told CVG, "We're not capable developers - we're doing PC and 360 like with Orange Box. EA came to us and said 'WTF, you you complete morons? Why can't you muster up enough balls to do a PS3 version?'

 

And thats how it goes down :D.

posted 12:32pm EDT - May 5th, 2008
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i regret i ever wanted L4D to go PS3 and i regret thinking about buying orange box. let's all hate the worst game company the world has ever known. let's never buy there games on any platform.
posted 12:32pm EDT - May 5th, 2008
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Really a big kick in the sack............Ea couldnt find their rear with both hands so I would almost rather not have anything more from them and as far as valve.......there is plenty of other good stuff coming for the PS3 who needs their weak azz titles!

posted 12:35pm EDT - May 5th, 2008
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I agree with

posted 12:36pm EDT - May 5th, 2008
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i hate valve counter strike sucks half life is piece of i dont want to sa this because psu doesnt allow but  i never liked it valve is a microsoft company guys they dont like ps3

posted 12:47pm EDT - May 5th, 2008
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bologna...."only 150"...no excuse..i believe that this was the worst statement from a developer that i have ever read

 

PSN: yungder

posted 1:22pm EDT - May 5th, 2008
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In short: Didn't enjoy Half-Life on the PC, never bothered with HL2 on any platform, and am not fussed if Valve develop for PS3 or not. Plenty of other great games out there and coming soon, so no L4D is no great loss, in my personal opinion.

posted 1:25pm EDT - May 5th, 2008
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valve = as.sholes!!

posted 1:32pm EDT - May 5th, 2008
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EA, valve, sucks man.not to worry KILLZONE2,RISISTANCE2,HAZE,MSG4,

posted 1:41pm EDT - May 5th, 2008
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Valve struggle developing for PC TF2 was updated with new achievements but did not remove the developer code that enabled anyone to activate them so its hardly surprising Valve will struggle with PS3 hardware.

www.steampowered.com/v/index.php

 

posted 1:59pm EDT - May 5th, 2008
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Let them keep there shooter we dont need it Resistance 2, Haze, Killzone 2 our plate is full of FPS. If they want to develope for the PC and that other inferior console let them. I just wont be wasting my money on anything that they make.

posted 2:10pm EDT - May 5th, 2008
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Screw Valve and screw their sorry developers. If Valve wants to make average PC games, then let them do it.

 

I could care less about Left 4 Dead. That game looks like complete crap compared to Resistance 2 and Killzone 2. It's not like just 1 little game title like Left 4 Dead is going to be a difference maker for the PS3.

 

Us PS3 owners have 3rd party exclusives like Metal Gear Solid 4, Final Fantasy XIII, Final Fantasy versus XIII, Wardevil and  L.A. Noire, so just let Valve continue to make there little DVD games on the PC and Xbox 360 to make a quick buck. It's a shame that they don't realize what they could really achieve in Left 4 Dead if it was developed on the PS3, but it's there loss, not ours.

 

In my opinion, that statement "We aren't PS3 developers" just mainly meant that they don't have the capacity or knowledge to develop PS3 games and they don't have the money to make PS3 games, but all Valve had to do was just say it.

posted 2:17pm EDT - May 5th, 2008
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I think valve is too afraid to get used to a new platform style.  it disgusts me to see a company like valve be so chicken about one platform.   just about all the other developers took it upon themselves to learn the hardware and software of the PS3 and yeah,  it was hard at first.  but they all came through and now the PS3 has more higher rated games than the 360.  because the quality is more important that shoving 300 games out the door that are low quality.

posted 2:37pm EDT - May 5th, 2008
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What a bunch of pussies
posted 2:40pm EDT - May 5th, 2008
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Shooters are dime a dozen now. Who cares if valve don't want to do a PS3 game. Keep it I'm sure there will be plenty of other shooters available for not only PS3 but 360 as well. I guess the guy is trying to imply that PS3 is not feasible profit wise. Well goodluck when pc gamers hack and burn Left 4 Dead which drives down your precious profits. This is clearly another developer clearly in the pocket of old M$. Many may be too busy for it anyways with GTA4, Haze and Killzone sitting on the shelf. I myself never cared for FPS so valve decision has very little effect on me. I think there's too many for my tastes anyway. Just a reminder to the guy post below easy don't mean better. Update: I went to Wiki for a little research on Valve. Gabe Newell and Mike Harrington the company founders are Long time Microsoft ex-employees. I didn't know that info so at this point guys and girls we should stop posting. Did we really expect ex-Microsoft employees to be gun ho behind PS3? I think no further comment is needed at this point. Especially from me. I actually respect them a little more now. Seriously they aren't PS3 developers :) 

posted 2:43pm EDT - May 5th, 2008
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I don't care anymore, the 360 is far better for games so I use it for gaming. The PS3 is far better for multimedia purposes so I use it for DVD's, Blu-Ray etc. I hope Sony learn from there mistakes and make the PS4 easier to develop for.

posted 3:20pm EDT - May 5th, 2008
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They just can't make a good game that looks good for the PS3, they suck.

Edit: Graphics wise.

posted 3:34pm EDT - May 5th, 2008
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a who cares they suck any way what C.S? Half Live?? people 1. Gran Turismo 5 (SYSTEM SELLER) 2. Haze 3. Metal Gear Solid 4 (SYSTEM SELLER) 4. Metal Gear Online 5. Singstar 6. LittleBigPlanet 7. Resistance 2 (SYSTEM SELLER) 8. Killzone 2 9. Motorstorm 2 10. SOCOM Confrontation 11. InFamous 12. The Agency 13. Final Fantasy XIII (SYSTEM SELLER) 14. Crysis 15. Tekken 6 16. Twisted Metal and more !
posted 3:41pm EDT - May 5th, 2008
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With a statement like that coming from a team of developers whom seem to be about as bright as a bunch of 3rd graders....I'm really not offended....really I'm not.lol

posted 3:48pm EDT - May 5th, 2008
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ass

posted 4:03pm EDT - May 5th, 2008
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 wow, i just lost alot of respect for those fat guys down at valve.

posted 4:07pm EDT - May 5th, 2008
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valve sux
posted 4:07pm EDT - May 5th, 2008
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I hate EA with a passion, but the only thing I give them credit for *the ONLY thing* is that they at least tried to port OB over. Other than that, valve still sucks.
posted 4:10pm EDT - May 5th, 2008
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It is pointless to argue.  Valve is nothing but a bunch of M$ fanboys, so that is what they will work for.  Too bad for them.

posted 4:18pm EDT - May 5th, 2008
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Why bother giving them our money. Its not as if the PS3 library isn't going to get flooded with quality titles. If they don't want to work on PS3 then fine. But I refuse to but their products after the nonsense that gabe has said. I can live without their games and PS3 owners can as well.

posted 4:22pm EDT - May 5th, 2008
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They didn't even develop Counter Strike. It was a mod originally.
posted 4:35pm EDT - May 5th, 2008
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I never thought I would say this, but that's very VERY lazy of them. 

posted 4:54pm EDT - May 5th, 2008
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"Lombardi told CVG, "We're not PS3 developers" - F**k Off then.

posted 5:07pm EDT - May 5th, 2008
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@markwesker

They need a easy cheap system to make there games on, thats why they pick the 360. I want games thats going to push out power and if people want to start porting games because they see ps3 going strong, then I'm sorry we dont want your games on ps3. I paid for a power machine and the ps3 is just that. We got games that will run the ps3 for a long time just look at the line up this year along.

 

psn id: I95SOUTH<---   I need 150 people so we can start our own devs team.

posted 5:27pm EDT - May 5th, 2008
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Ryoma posted PS3 was hacked a week after release. I don't think some half emu or trick to make a Wii controller work on PS3 count as a hack. There's been some others that work kind of and require old firmware to use it. That hack you spoke of uses linux to do so too. So I would research your info a little before you post. Anyway Playstation 3 haven't seen one running pirated game since it release. I'm not saying it impossible but it proven to be tough at this point. I also think the one thing keeping the PS3 unpirated is the fact unlike Microsoft, Sony force frequent updates. So you can put in a chip or whatever and PS3 constantly verify firm and I wouldn't want to take a chance of getting banned from PSN. PSP however was different because it's not directly connected to Sony network. A firmware flash of 360 dvd-rom is just as easy as moding psp firmware.

 

posted 5:54pm EDT - May 5th, 2008
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valve doesn't suck they blow

posted 6:01pm EDT - May 5th, 2008
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There not even developing for 360 anymore....I believe another company is doing the 360 version of Left 4 Dead.

posted 6:11pm EDT - May 5th, 2008
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Valve don't care like 'way the well make better games if we can make crap that sales on other's.. they just don't want to get to much work.. is basicaly like some EA games.. Harry Potter... etc.. EA blows Valve suck Konami,Insomaniac, Square Enix (Sony??? :D) FTW
posted 6:30pm EDT - May 5th, 2008
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 Isn't Naughty Dog a small company? They don't seem to have any problems developing for ps3. This is pure laziness on the part of valve. For shame.... for shame. 

posted 7:08pm EDT - May 5th, 2008
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screw them, and I will do it the best way too, downloaded on Torrent for free on my PC rig that will even make the 360 version go cry in the corner.

posted 8:28pm EDT - May 5th, 2008
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I've never seen such a LAZY, LACK of effort approach to a business decision. It "is" a business decision Valve, not a personal, one. All just because you don't want to invest some time upfront learning a different style of programing architecture. Having 150 people is "no" excuse. Find the means, hire specialist if it's too hard for you to handle. Quality control the project so the game is developed to a high standard for all platforms. Very weak excuses. What's the real issue here? It's not like the PS3 will suffer because you don't develop for it, but, give PS3 owners quality games if you exspect people to buy tour titles. Otherwise, don't half-asz a port looking for a profit.

posted 8:46pm EDT - May 5th, 2008
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I like how everyone is dogging Valve saying crap like "noobs" and "lazy developers". This group is responsible for arguably some of the greatest shooters ever made!! I didn't care about the crappy orange box port because I had been playing it on my PC for long before it launched on the PS3. Listen, the PS3 is a DIFFICULT and VERY EXPENSIVE system to develop for. Not to mention that at the moment it has a smaller user base, so it almost makes no sense for some developers to develop for it. Their margin of profit isn't really worth their time. Don't get me wrong, I love the PS3, but as a PS3 owner, I know that the real reason I bought it  is our exclusive games! Not crappy ports. Besides, any half way decent pc can play most of Valves titles(or half the other games that launch on the 360). Don't be idiots and talk smack about a talented group of people who make fun games just because we can't play it on our PS3's. Honestly, if anyone is to blame, it's Sony, because of their choice of system architecture.

posted 9:04pm EDT - May 5th, 2008
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STFU, Valve.

 

 

STFU.

posted 9:37pm EDT - May 5th, 2008
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 they don't have the skill to do it, ps3 tooo much 4 them.

posted 9:51pm EDT - May 5th, 2008
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@free-agent wrong xbox360 and pc's are both almost same to devolope that's why they choice ( if that guys really have a talent then why they not choosing the ps3 huh? and why they sayng such stupid word huh? they don't have talent it;s just guys are graduted game devolope school)

posted 10:16pm EDT - May 5th, 2008
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They are just lazy developers, I have seen this since 2002. STEAM network and everything VALVe does is high quality and top notch but they are so f-ing lazy and always come out with it delayed or late times

 btw any smart person would know VALVe games are MEANT for PC. HL2 and TF2, CS, Portal. Console versions dont do them justice.

while i LOVE HL2 and 1.6 and Source and Tf2 and DOD source, they are just lazy developers. They come out with updates like the radar and no ammo buy for css that no one wanted. People wnated depth of field and motion blur instead garry's mod gets updated they are just lazy.

posted 10:40pm EDT - May 5th, 2008
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I'm not sure what you mean by the 360 and PC having the same architectures. THey don't. WHen they develop a game for a pc there are many other variables involved. They don't develop for the PS3 because it's not worth their time. It cost's too much money, and without having a large user base, they just don't feel it's worth the effort and money they put into it to release it for PS3. Which is the same reason games like FFOW among others were canned for the PS3.  This is similar to everyone calling Capcom Crapcom. Which is just complete BullS**t, because they make great games too. People are just babies when it comes to this subject, and it's just too easy to point the finger and say crap like "lazy developers". Believe me, I am a network admin, but I have a BS in computer science and I worked on some small projects with Garage Games a few years ago and I know how much time and effort is required to make a game. People that don't have first hand programming experience shouldn't bother making bogus comments about "lazy developers" because they truly have no idea whey're talking about. This has nothing to do with "talent", it has to do with money, a lot of money. Yeah, it's a bummer that it can't be about making the fans happy, but it's true, like it or not.

posted 10:50pm EDT - May 5th, 2008
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All Valve is good for HALF LIFE(2) and Counter Strike(source).

And as far as I'm concerned they can die in a fire, Gabe Howel is a complete a55hole.

posted 10:50pm EDT - May 5th, 2008
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"We're only 150 people" um... hire more pople, sell more games = make more money? thats like 3rd grade math!

posted 11:26pm EDT - May 5th, 2008
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these guys suk and they know it. their games are just average and i've NEVER even heard of whatever their new game is... they know they can't compete with all the GREAT titles the PS3 are going to be receiving, ESPECIALLY all the exclusives.
posted 11:39pm EDT - May 5th, 2008
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PS3 don't have a large user base huh. 13 million is not a large user base huh? it only 5-6 million shy of 360. Valve complaint has nothing to do with money. It's plain and simple they back Microsoft end of story. The reason so many are posting because they use lame excuses for not doing a PS3 version. I don't think Valve is lazy, they're just fanboys and hate PS3. If it was all about the money and it was me I would do a mediocre port and shut the PS3 fans up. Meanwhile laughing all the way to the bank, so it's not about the money. The just don't like PS3. Gabe a while back even admitting so on PSU.com. So all those that are stepping up in Valve honor. Don't bother, they just hate the PS3. Bottom line. The people complaints here are valid. Be better about it and say "Hey we develop exclusive for the 360" then people would show way more respect.

posted 11:51pm EDT - May 5th, 2008
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Free Agent, you have a valid point, and maybe lazy is not the correct term. What IS apparent is that dispite the great games Valve has made, it's the blatant, flip-mouth comments, and negative attitude towards the PS3 system that's keeps agrivating people who actually do want Valve games. There's no denying they dislike... or the founder dislikes the system. As for Sony, they chose a different architecture because it's "new" technology, and in the long run will likely be a more beneficial/efficient way to process all that information. I could be wrong, I'm no programer, but Sony is known for leading new tech. They should not be blamed because they aren't using 360 tech. That's how tech evolves.

posted 12:18am EDT - May 6th, 2008
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Valve+ex microsombies employees = copy cat mediocrity
hey RYOMA This is playstation universe not 3crapy60 red ring of dead grave yard universe.. PS3 Hasn't been hacked yet you retarded

posted 12:18am EDT - May 6th, 2008
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Valve+ex microsombies employees = copy cat mediocrity
hey RYOMA This is playstation universe not 3crapy60 red ring of dead grave yard universe.. PS3 Hasn't been hacked yet you retarded

posted 2:10am EDT - May 6th, 2008
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PSU dont bother posting news about Valve its just a waste of space and time.

 

posted 3:47am EDT - May 6th, 2008
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It's all becouse they create games on DirectX, that easy to port from PC to 360.

But if you create game on OpenGL, it's easy to port it to PS3

posted 3:51am EDT - May 6th, 2008
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Yeah, don't get me wrong, I hate Microsoft with a passion! I love the PS3, and I think it has an incredible future ahead of itself. I just don't think people completely understand all aspects of game development. Regardless, This is a pretty lame move by Valve. I'm still pissed at them for not porting CS source to the consoles. Oh well, there are too many good games coming for the PS3 this year to even worry about it :)

posted 7:47am EDT - May 6th, 2008
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@ Twista i dont think so m8 u seen the ps3 line up of games this year haze, mgs4, res2, kilzone2, lbp, socom, motorstorm2, just 2 name a few whats the xbox got??? gow2,...............................Get with the programme bud

posted 7:55am EDT - May 6th, 2008
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Yeah twista sure brought a expensive multimedia machine. If I was only going to watch only bluray etc. on PS3. I would just buy HD-DVD addon for 360 or just watch plain old DVD. There are tons of way cheaper solution for watching movies and etc. To add if you think PS3 is such a waste of your time then just sell it or trade in for some good old 360 games.

posted 2:08pm EDT - May 6th, 2008
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The only thing I play from Valve is Counter-Strike Source and I play it to death.  Portal is another game I love but if Valve wants to ignore a great platform because they don't want to learn anything new, it's their loss.  Convenient for them that the 360 resembles a low-grade PC and the 7-core PS3 is just too high-tech for them to figure out.  I'm sure they would jump Intel's Skulltrail all night long when they make it right.

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